Yuma

20-25sec is enough to run 2 chars if tank mini near window
of course it is more easy for a dps class + box a char to run purity stone
it is because if mini call  your nm while u are tanking mini in the same time
u still need to run to stone and summon by mini (if u are dps class then u can easy run chars )

so what i will say is to put box char in decay side if  when i run sk +cle in the same time
just jump out from window will not take long time for 2 chars

last night when we start dps mini in phase 2
i found that both mini wont call adds after inc in 10-20sec..
so the add pop may be aound 30-60sec eash time
adds not terrible if healer heal the ma/mt faster

Yuma

just remind one info for adds for pahse 2 (50%)
both sides mini adds pop time base on mini hp ..

accoring to the freelance Forum...

Spawn at HP intervals

so we can prepare for add when dps mini...
just need to get more info for mini adds
(may be 10% each time? or 75>50>25.....we need to check)

http://forums.eqfreelance.net/YaBB.pl?num=1339707340/0

anyway ...they are so powa can use open raid to pass T3 RT raid in july...

Yuma

7/10

the raid run down

1 inc boss to 75%
2 pahse 1 inc  and dps 2mini  [emote game 1]
3 back to center and dps boss to 50%
4 WIZ AE TP inc box char get TP to blind point
5 pahse 2 inc and dps 2 mini
6 back to center and dps boss to 25%
2mini rest time box char can use campfire/gate/banner  back to raid to add dps
7  pahse 3 inc and dps 2mini
8  back to center and dps boss to 0%
9 we win!

u can let box char stay in npc room and wait until pahse 3 emote game finish then back to center to add dps!

for setting up the group in raid

EAST side (decay) need more heal and caster  to pass zombie in phase 1 !
WEST side(splendor) need more melee to pass in phase 1...west side dps always good compare with east side

For phase 2 emote...i see that some raider jump too fast when mini called nm...so just wait 1-2sec then jump out ..if u succeed then u will back to center at once!

For (EAST)Decay group  ... all raider should stand near window ...it can help u run emote faster when mini call u

For (EAST)Decay group...raider in nm hate list no1 should not need to run emote in most of time ..hate list no1 should be Tank always...so dont OT tank remember...

For (West)splendor group...raider should stand near window as purity stone will pop near one of window in mini room....just run to stone until emote pass....if u are tank and mini call your nm u need to run to stone too ...remeber!

I think our heal power enough this time...just need to pay attention and focus more for emote and pass 50% next time...

PS: when i box cle ,i will always focus on cle first ...sk will use to catch adds in center room and prepare for back up tank ...all tank need rdy to tank boss after each phase pass(after both mini die raider will TP back to center and inc boss in few sec...so tank and healer need rdy ...)

Yuma

plz focus on left side of window..
for all raider...u should open a new window for shout channel
(mini will call nm in shout channel !)
if u are the one that mini called ...u will also see yellow emote in "other" channel
(just open a new window and choose "other".)
u can skip yellow emote and just focus on shout channel for emotei!ts ok!

u will see Nm called me [clericstar) to jump out in shout and other channel!

to make yourself more easy to run emote...u should use third person camera in raid
(the picture u see is in third person camera...then u will easy find purify stone in mini room

Yuma

泥巴損血不會很多.....我的CLE ALL BUFF 只有72K 站在旁邊10秒也不會死掉....
LK 說得很對...這場DPS 不用太多...不要快反而要穩...
我覺得第一次開打算是打得順的....只是進入PHASE 2後大伙不是太會掌握EMOTE 的玩法..

其實只要有專開一個WINDOW 留意MINI 的SHOUT ...基本上不會MISS EMOTE了...
只是專心玩一隻跑EMOTE不會很困難...
DECAY(EAST) 跳樓...
SPLENDOR (WEST) 跑石頭旁邊(PURIFY STONE)

SOE已經將遊戲改得容易一點了....(以前是9秒跑完...失敗一次REG 10%..現在是12秒跟 失敗一次5%)

不明的地方不要害羞...大膽提問吧..
不怕你提問只怕你不來問[s:7]

Yuma

對了....大家可能有時忘了要進那邊....

最簡單的分法...

DECAY (EAST 東方)
SPLENDOR (WEST 西方)

通常 G1-G4 也是DECAY
G5-G9 就是SPLENDOR

只要看一下你的拍南針(預設顯示的話指南針就在正中央,可以看看我貼的圖..)
這樣就不會走錯位置了...

要留意RL 可能會在每個PHASE 後調動RW...
因此要經常注意自在RW己的位置有沒有被更動..

這場RAID因為有很多東西也要注意
假如不明白可以在這裡或是在遊戲中向軍官查詢...

別SERVER 只以OPEN RAID 的形式也能PASS RT..
我們應該有能力PASS 的!
大家加油!

Yuma

i think if emote wont call your nm u jump out will die.....according to the zam post or other
forum also said the same thing...( anyway ..we can test it in next time)

also ,if too many people jump down will affect the dps and heal to tank mini....(u still need 3-4
sec to finish the jump from window)

For purify stone.........Yes..all raider can move to purify stone to make sure u can pass the emote .so i will say make ne LK will feel more easy to do it. (just make sure dont let LK tank to tank mini and just run char to stone is ok)...all raider can move stone first and continue to
do your job(dps or heal anything) it wont make emote fail and 100% make sure u can pass emote especially for some lag raider

all Healer remember make sure MT zone in to mini room first...dont zone in faster than MT or u will kill by mini...if our heal stable we should just use 1 MT to pass 50% emote...of course
healer will also need to run emote ...just reaction faster and back to heal assp...

accroding to our raid dps...if our emote not fail to much...we should get the mini in 10emote
(30sec X10 =5mini)

we can watse too much mana on mini as we will auto inc 50% boss after both side mini die

Yuma

我剛留意到一件事情...

其實黃色的EMOTE比紅色的更容易看到(因為紅色的SHOUT是全RAIDER也可看到....加上FAIL的時候也是以SHOUT顯示...很容易會造成洗頻...)

黃昏EMOTE(OTHER CHANNEL)只限被點名的人看到...只要你清楚自己身在東邊或西邊...看到黃色EMOTE
就可以自動執行EMOTE了...算是相當顯眼的

跑EMOTE時千萬不要被打死....不然系統會判定FAIL...

這場RAID CLE 有一個VOA AA 可以補魔 ..CD 10分鐘...基本上每一個PHASE 也可以使用一次...在LOW MANA或是剛剛復活時也相當有用...配合ROD 一起使用的話可以撐一些時間了..BOX CLE一定要把這個AA拉出來...

Yuma

IF u afraid u dont have enough time to jump out from window in East side(DEcay)
u can stand near window like me

擔心時間不足夠跳樓的朋友可以站在窗邊像我這樣...看圖...保証3秒內可以完成EMOTE動作!!看圖!

Yuma

8/10  RT RAID

its good for us to get more info for adds pop in phase2
we dps East side mini to 85% and make first add pop(just like a zooe~~)
this add will pop near mini .so MT need to run away fast or he will sec kill by mini + add!
Add tank need to tank it and all dps ass to kill add assp!
This Add wont depop until die!

MT for mini also need to run emote...we can sure for this info becuase our mini
mt kaka need to jump out from window when tanking miniXD

For East side tonight we just have 1war +1sk (kaka and me XD) to run in pahse 2...
as i gate sk after boss to 50%...only kaka to tank mini...we keep kaka live until first add pop..so RL should ass 1 war + 2 add tank to (better to 4 tank if ok) each side..it is becuase when we dps add mini will call 3nm in the same time...if our tank need to jump out..its dangerous for our dps..i think its not too hard to set up  2 war + 2 sk/pal in each side is ok

Lastly, for 50% mini add pop time.. it should be pop one add for each 15% for
mini ..so the add pop time should be 85%>70%>55%>40%>25%>10% totally 6 adds for
this mini ...add hit 18k max and  cant mez/stun so add tank need to get it at once.

總結一下今晚的經驗
1 PHASE 2 MINI ADD POP的時間應該MINI 的血每掉15%便POP 一次...今晚EAST SIDE第一隻ADD出現的時間就是MINI的血掉到85%的時候...以此推斷MINI POP ADD的時間應為85>70>55>40>25>10 合共6隻ADD ...要留意這隻ADD不殺掉的話是不會消失的

2 ADD 會POP 在MINI 附近..因此ADD TANK要在第一時間將ADD 拉走...不然MT 會被BOSS + ADD 的DPS打死...

3 RL 最少要安排 2 WAR +2 SK/PAL 在東西兩邊...今晚東邊只有KAKA 跟我 一起(WAR+ SK)...當我的SK 在50% GATE走專心玩CLE時便只有KAKA 守在這邊..當ADD 殺掉我們這邊唯一的MT 後我們自然WIPE

ADD 打人很痛...MAX HIT 18K ..不過我猜血量不多..只要ADD TANK有及時抓好應該OK!再者這隻ADD POP時間跟MINI血量有關..是可以事先準備的!

4 MINI TANK也要跑ＥＭＯＴＥ。。這晚ＫＡＫＡ邊ＴＡＮＫ　ＭＩＮＩ邊要跳樓。。。因此最好在窗邊附近ＴＡＮＫ。。

有進步。。下次應該可以更好！

Yuma

12/10

1 this time more raider know how to run emote in 50%...its a good news for us!
2 some healer have lag problem tonight so affect the heal power to tank
3 we need to kill adds assp when pop no matter in center or in mini room ....adds will wipe our dps so all raider should ass ma to kill it assp!

For East side (Decay) ,becareful when u stand near window for jump out emote .. mini will random cast A DD to raider when dps mini and this DD has push effect..so it will push u out if u stand too ouside ....

For me... i try box sk + cle in first try but still fail 1 emote for jumping out of 5 emote run.so
i try to use cle for heal only in last try.. the result is good at least out side can keep Tank
Live ( kaka + shavin  did good job thx a lot!) and kill add in 85% ..a bit better than last time

so i will say that healer is more important in 50% ...so i will use cle to heal tank and gate sk in 50% ...and back to center after emote win in 50%..

For CLE, few things u can do so that u will feel better in raid

1  take out your VOA aa Quite mirecle and use it if u low mana (heal u hp + 15K mana with 10min CD...very useful for long raid run )

2 dont eat rod if your hp too low .....(eg ...get AE or DOT)

3 Run away from zooe when it pop

這晚部分治療有嚴重的LAG問題..影響了治療輸出...而部分RAIDER 的抗性未達800 (抗性AA 修完 =750 +
MPG 6 TRAIL 50=800...差了５０影響很大。。我是治療自然很有感受了）

ＣＬＥ　那個ＶＯＡ　ＡＡ　quiet miracle 一定要拉出來使用。。是一個對目標治療　＋　補ＭＡＮＡ的神技。。１０分鐘ＣＤ　配合ＲＯＤ一起使用差不多可以補２０Ｋ　ＭＡＮＡ了。。。持久戰利器

ＤＥＬＡＹ　ＤＥＡＴＨ　有多的ＡＡ也可以修一下。。。這個ＡＡ在等級３１後追加一個效果。。就是當血掉到０％以下時不會立即死亡。。這樣可以多一點機會吃到治療被救回來。。我這晚也是有兩次０％被拉回來了＠＠

５０％　的時候很吃重補血。。今晚的ＴＡＮＫ數量是足夠的。。。不過補血就有一點不足。。我們有把８５％ＰＯＰ出來的ＡＤＤ殺掉。。不過ＷＥＳＴ後來被ＡＤＤ　ＷＩＰＥ了。。總的來說補血還是要多一點跟穩一點

Yuma

remark :

bebe fail because he already die when mini call his nm...........
add hit not hard for me when i tank...

logs tonight for 50% emote run...
i will say if we do emote run better we can let mini die in 8-10 round...



lets do better and ask more if u dont know how to do emote run..

for west side raider:

1 use 3 person mode to run stone
2 just run to stone if u see it pop near window (for raider dont know how to do this emote)

西邊的會友有兩點可以留意:

1 請以第三生角度進行遊戲 (把老鼠拉後一點就能轉換至第三身角度,可以讓你更容易看到PURIY STONE POP 的情況

2 如果你對這個EMOTE沒有把握...當你看到石頭POP的時候....請放下任何工作..立即走到石頭旁邊站著..這樣可保證你能100% 跑過這個EMOTE

如果在一晚的RAID中MISS 2次EMOTE又沒有特別原因的話 .....其實RL 可以考慮讓該RAIDER 在場外
STAND BY 直至我們PASS PHASE 2 EMOTE...不然每一次失敗便會讓MINI 回血5%....
我想我們的RL 會被激至吐血...

i suggest if our raider fail 2 emote without special reason ...RL can let him sit out until we pass phase 2 emote becuase each fail emote will reg 5% for mini...


ask more, learn more,we can do better!
thx a lot

Yuma

其實跑EMOTE 的情況不是想像中那麼差
只是FAIL 一次便是給MINI 補血5%..
若補血後的MINI 血量差距超出5% 便會令MINI 再次補血...
每一次30 秒的EMOTE我們大概只能接受 一次的失誤
基本上連續兩次EMOTE 的失誤鐵定會令MINI 回到99%..

如RL 說的一樣...這場RAID 關鍵就在50%的EMOTE RUN有否跑得好...
PHASE 1 我們可以安排BOX HEAL 支援
PHASE 3 我們可以指派一組人專心傳書

唯有PHASE 2要求全體RAIDER的專注
只要幾個SOK 或是網絡不穩的玩家就可以讓全場RAID 失敗...

基本上就是兩個動作。。。
東邊。。。跳樓
西邊。。。跑石頭

以今晚的陣容。。ＤＰＳ跟ＴＡＮＫ不會有大問題
唯有ＥＭＯＴＥ一點。。實在要多專注一些

有問題。。。請多問（若覺得不好意思可以ＰＭ或是遊戲中各位Ｏ跟ＲＬ）

不提問又常出意外
真的會把ＲＬ跟專心的ＲＡＩＤＥＲ氣腦了～～～

Yuma

跑ＥＭＯＴＥ花的時間不過數秒。。。
ＭＴ只要不是太ＢＧ應該不會在數秒內ＤＯＷＮ。。。
（ＳＫ　最少可以吸血。。。ＣＲＩ　也有７０Ｋ　ＨＥＡＬ）
因此應該先以號ＥＭＯＴＥ為先
完了ＥＭＯＴＥ再進行補血。。。
其他有補血技能的ＣＬＡＳＳ也應該支援ＭＴ／ＡＤＤ　ＴＡＮＫ
你的ＤＰＳ輸出不用多。。
優先工作應是ＥＭＯＴＥ。。

今晚fail 的會友５０％　以上也是healer...
補血是重要。。跑ＥＭＯＴＥ同樣重要。。
不想依賴ＡＴ的話可以參考我的設定
多開兩個ＷＩＮ
一個是專門for shout channel
另一個是專門for other chnnel

12秒雖然不算很久。。。
但應該足夠讓你完成emote的。。

Yuma

28/10

we miss RT raid for two weeks...seems our raider forget how to run for 75% emote..

For east side (zombie).. all healer becareful dont use any heal with cure effect...
For  west side(no buff) ..no buff team dont use any aura/epic 2.0 click/any action will proc
effect in song buff/

可能是太久沒有練習..大家也忘了75% EMOTE的處理方法...(最後一次TRY EAST 應該好一點了..前幾次是不停的FAIL ZOMBIE...除了注意CURE 的問題...人數可能也要留意...感覺G1-G4投入多一點人數後FAIL的情況好像有改善...

EAST 的MINI 會SLOW MELEE DPS..
WEST 的MINI 會SLOW CASTER DPS...

人手分配時可以注意一下....

希望明天會好一點..

Yuma

For decay side...

member should close to mini to prevent emote run fail (close to mini better after servel try
and dont afraid hp drop down as healer will keep group heal in phrase ]

RL should remind member which team is no buff team and appoint which group should be book team in pahse3 (25% emote) ....if someone get the book and he is not the book team  just simple sent the book [target the member >click the book] to book member..
then book team can start their work..

in pahse 2 [50% emote run] ....heal power seems more important than tank [we always
lack heal and make tank die in this part] ..so i will try to gate sk and use cle for heal in pahse 2 emote...[jump out and run stone game]..after that just use both char to play in the
remain phase ...[25% emote just book pass game...if book team do well should be easy and others member just dps mini and add ....]

hope we can pass RT and start oseka before ROF release
we can do it !

Yuma

I think we should just do RT Raid until we pass it nothing else.. Grind it out learn it finish it
Newbie Post at 2012-11-12 15:04

yes...pass RT first then start oseka
if we can handle the emote play
it will more helpful for VOA T4  or ROF T1 in future...
even we can use cover to start VOAT4  but we cant escape the emote run ...[T4 raid still need emote run]

seems more war , knight and healer join us atm
i hope we can take this chance to pass RT...

Yuma

16/11  RT 50% emote log

Yuma

6main cle is not easy get....and our RW is good tonight
so what we miss is emote run
lets do better next time and focus more on emote run!
if u dont know what to do just ask member!!thX!

for 50% emote run

East side: just stand near window and dont jump too fast when mini call your mn

EAST SIDE的朋友若擔心來不及跳樓的話可以選擇站在窗邊,跳樓時不要太快...等1-2秒進行動作避免失敗

WEST SIDE:just run to purify stone when it pop if u dont know how to run emote or u feel lag in raid

west:如果你感到LAG或擔心不會跑石頭的話只要看到石頭POP便立即走到石頭旁....這樣可以保證100%不會失敗

不管你屬那一邊,當MINI要你跑EMOTE的時候,應該立即放下手上的任何工作,以完成EMOTE為第一目標!

u should do the emote first when mini call your name..no matter u are tank/healer/dps or balabala...

Yuma

Nathan suggest use stoneman method to pass purity stone emote
i think its a good idea we can try next time
we can run in this way:

1 ask a good gear Rng to be "stoneman" (he dont need to do dps and just do stoneman job as rng can heal himself he can keep up himself)

2 when mini call emote...he just stand near PurityStone and yell people come

3 others can run to him to do the emote

4 again...if u not sure u need to run emote or not just run to "stoneman" when he stand near stone

5 to make others easy identify ,stoneman can change to special look to let others easy know why u stone

Tonight just focus on cle and try west side for last try...
i will say run stone a bit hard than jump out from tower
because stone random pop and jump out can just choose one of windows
so...i understand that its a bit hard for raider to do
i also know raider try to do the best to run emote
so i dont want to give u too much pressure

for west side...i feel sorry because our heal power not enough to keep tank up...
3 cle should be ok to do heal job
but seems we have ld or some problem so we are in trouble in last try




please feel free to share your view and suggestion for raid