kakakuku

what is the Order of HPX?
first 11, then it goes to?
any one know the order?

Yuma

last time HPX 11> 1
iam tanking hp1 last time ...
dps low last time ,when we ko hp11 and dps hp1 to 50%..
already pop  6 templar...
so thats why i suggest we set a templar team keep kill templar or kill templar
after we kill 1 hp

even our raid dps >700 in last try
we still in trouble when we dps hp 1
(according to my exp, ,we always face other hp tank down besides hp1 tank when we dps on hp1)
we always ask shavin  to tank hp11 and tiger to tank hp1 in oseka raid
both tank did a good job and less lost in tanking
we always have problem in other 4 hp tank especially hp3/hp5/hp7
( sen and skz seems have lag problem and affect their tanking stability ,Amadeous tanking
good and always kill by other hp but not his target .of coruse kaka also good tank and keep a long time :)

iam not saying that our tank skill and gear is not good  ,but we need to understand that
lag always make our hp tank bad performace in raid .

so i suggest that we should give other 4 hp tank more support [healer and back tank both need!!) besides hp11 anf hp1

keep other 4 tank not down then we will have chance to make our raid in control and
let the hp3 die soon :)

kakakuku

do we burn down HPX first or HP first?  anyone know the order?  I am always tanking in turnnel so dont know whats going on outside?

Should we place stronger, less lag tanks  and healers on HPX ( HP11 and HP 1)?
Raid burn down HP 7 (Hp7 healer go support HP9 same turnnel), Burn down HP 5 (healder go support HP1)? Burn down HP3?

Do we have the exact ordfer of where HPX about to spawn?  11-1-x-x? so good for healer to support other group?

yes, should try with mage pet tanking when we got some mages on

Yuma

9/9

we try HP5>HP11>templar>hp1 this time

i think the plan is ok and we have record on killing 2hpx in pass(just 1 time)
however , out tanking not stablilty
for hp5...thats fine as we can disc brun down vert fast
but for hp11....we cant dps down in short time, so we must keep our tank longer
even RL not mention evey time in RS...
i hope healer and tank/knight should do more besides follow ma

for example... RL ass Yamatow/Dios to heal HP5 tank
after HP5 die, you should become free healer at the same time
so what u need is to check your ex-win
find out which tank is in danger and heal them assp

for tank/knight ...if you are not ass to do hp tank / zealot team
you can prepare your disc for tanking hp
once u see our hp tank DOWN
open your disc and help tanking hp..
then our dpser will be safe and not kill by hpx...

u can do more for  raid!
everyone did more...our raid will improve more

for AE emote.......i think it is helpful to choose one raider for calling emote id
we face less ae in last try...we can keep it in next time

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我想大家也盡力了!
其實我們的DPS 每次也有進步
第一隻HPX 也快速被擊殺
只是坦方面始終有一點問題..
這又涉及到HEALER 方面的問題

首先...HEALER也是有機會被指名RUN EMOTE
這是無法避免的..
剛才有一次是因為CLE要RUN EMOTE結果TANK SEC DOWN..
我想要應付這個情況
唯有安排最少1 CLE +1HELAER 擔當FREE HEAL的工作
其實由負責HP5 (即第一隻HP) 的HEALER擔當就好...

他們在HP5 DOWN後專心留意EX WIN上的TANK 血量
那邊危險就給予支援
當然...假如你看到CLE 要RUN EMOTE時..
就應該立即反應...

至於T沒有被排到的TANK/KNIGHT
可以準備好你的24 秒DISC...
看到HP TANK倒了便立即上前開無敵擋...
爭取多一點時間...

這邊要希望RL 了解一下BODO WAR的HP/AC 情況
印象中BODO AA已有4K...基本的TANK AA 應該有修完了
希望WAR CL 能指導一下BODO TANK的要領...
一個WAR 只能跟隨MA DPS MOB的話...
實在是大大的浪費....(再者我們的WAR數量實在不多)
希望盡快讓他成為主坦之一....

kakakuku

we try HP5>HP11>templar>hp1 this time
the key is to take down 2-3HP fast without any other tank down(all 6), so we can free up tanks/healers for HP5/HP11 to back up HP1, 7, 3, 9.
when we tank all 6, cant mak any mistake, as we dont have backup on tank and healer.

HP 5, HP11, HP1, HP7,  (HP 3, HP9)

I think we need war with disc and more real healer at least for first 3 HPX (5, 11, 1)
1.Last night took us 60secs to burn down HP5.
2. Never killed HP11, but take it down to very low HP, but used more than 90secs (then Wipe), which means HP1 is HPX already( around 90-96secs).  
3. i suggest first 3 need use war and real healers.  Once 5 and 11 down.  Half healer tank, go to support 1 and half go to support 7.  As HPX1 will be likely a longer fight. once we down 3 HP, the event should become easier.  MOre tanks and more healers to spread support the remaining 3.....

Yuma

16/9

after a lots of test
we have make a conclusion
that is....mag pet (with em16) can be a power tank in oseka
raider report that pet hp never less than 80% when tanking hp
so we can ask mag pet to tank nex time (with em14 at least...need real char not box mag!)

sadly to say ..our tank face lag problem [its no doubt that our tanks are skillful and have enough raid exp..so thats nothing beside lag problem if you ask me why our tank die too fast
when inc...)

i try to tank hp1 tonight
I need to hold for a long time and always change to hpx when we dps hp11
iam sure we cant fast dps down hp11 (even we can do that we still need to kill templar after that...)
so i need more support (heal and tank!)

MA did a good job tonight
thx a lot!

Newbie

Need 2 Magi earth pet atleast. Then need 6 tanks for other 3 hp.. 1 Primary tank each, one back up tank.... THESE TANKS STAY WITH THEIR MOB THE WHOLE TIME, be ready too Off tank.. Raid follow MA we win too easy.



Sk's need to be back up tanks for Magi pet's... 2 Reason's they can Pull HP to pet and FD once pet has aggro, and then they can build aggro on HP from range just incase pet dies..

Yuma

time to finish oseka!...plz read the post again to refresh your memories!

simple run way:

1 inc 6 HP ...
2 Ass MA to kill the HP
3 at the same time, HPX will change to other hp in every 45sec
4 at the same time,Adds (templor ) pop in 3 sides [upper/middle/low)
    adds group need to kill it fast or one more hp will pop when templor near water
     remeber dont near water or sanke adds pop kill you
5 when templar down, he will drop a click item,take it and wait RL order to click it
6 after 5 hp down, RL will call raider target HPX to click item [need do it at the same time]
7 when succeed ,this will move on to final stage...HPX hp locked, and many many adds[
30adds in total]  kill all the adds before they reach water
8 when all adds down...chest pop ,we win!

Iam happy to see that we have war sea in this time[i remeber LK always need to box war
to play before...]  and also good pet tank.with lv100 powa and CTOV gear..we should more
easy handle this raid...

emote care:

when you see the red word pop in your screen [all raider can see it...a whirpool pop around u ] you need to run to banner or run away form banner [box char need to care it]
or AE+ snare pop around you and kill raiders near you

not hard compare with RT emote...but u should know how to avoid the ae to make sure
dps not down too fast

Yuma

4/1/2013

OSEKA KO!
all good job and thx all:)
(這幾個月的努力總算沒有白費..T_T)

few things to remind:

1 mag pet is very good to tank HP and hpx (1cle a bit danger to tank hpx but is ok)
2 click item can loot when 5hp die because it will disappear if u die
3 wait RL order and target hpx for click
4 after click finish and succeed zealot will keep pop in 3 tunnel ..kill them and dont let them near water..we will win
5 in final stage HPX rooted but still make dps..so need to use pet tank it..all raider just do dps on adds